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he's clever enough once again not to use it. but once you start talking about people within islam beginning to speak up, to change it, that's... it's that type of thing. and he has got a point to the extent that he's right. there is a narrative which has grown up within islam of oppression, of the west being responsible for its many ills. and some of that is correct but a lot of it isn't and that's what i think he's trying to deal with. >> rose: he believed that saddam had to be taken down, whether he had weapons of mass destruction or whether he maintained the potential to do it because of plans and... he also believed that if iran has nuclear weapons there's a possibility they'll fall into the hands of people who will use them. not iranians but whoever else. and that therefore you can not allow it. and he's prepared to say that if sanctions and diplomacy and everything else doesn't work then you have to have a military attack. >> again, i think he's coming out of his closet-- if i can put it that way-- more. he's saying things
he's clever enough once again not to use it. but once you start talking about people within islam beginning to speak up, to change it, that's... it's that type of thing. and he has got a point to the extent that he's right. there is a narrative which has grown up within islam of oppression, of the west being responsible for its many ills. and some of that is correct but a lot of it isn't and that's what i think he's trying to deal with. >> rose: he believed that saddam had to be taken...
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and they would use anybody as a partner. they joined, they embraced al qaeda. >> rose: now tony blair makes this point. he says that if al qaeda had not come in and if iran had not come in it was manageable. >> i don't agree with that. i mean, certainly they were malevolent players, very malevolent players and many of the most spectacular, as the american military called them. i didn't like that phrase, spectacular attacks, spectacular to you and me means fire works at night. but you know what i mean by spectacular attacks. suicide bombings which killed 150, 200 people at a time were al qaeda linked. but the enablers were the saddam fedayeen, the saddam insurgency. they were very closely related to one another. even if, for the sake of argument, there had been no osama bin laden and there can be no al qaeda and there had been a benign government in iran-- and there were none of those-- >> rose: and there was no help with iran. >> they still would have faced a really serious and pro pacted and viers insurgency in iraq. it wou
and they would use anybody as a partner. they joined, they embraced al qaeda. >> rose: now tony blair makes this point. he says that if al qaeda had not come in and if iran had not come in it was manageable. >> i don't agree with that. i mean, certainly they were malevolent players, very malevolent players and many of the most spectacular, as the american military called them. i didn't like that phrase, spectacular attacks, spectacular to you and me means fire works at night. but...
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give us the lowest corporation tax in the g-7. and that is a huge advert in this program, by the way, it is a good low corporate tax environment. >> rose: that's what ireland did exactly. >> and i think now they were able to take it quite a lot further than 24%. but nevertheless, from we're taking it from 28% to 24%. if you think of many people in my situation, many people sitting in a room like this, in faced with a very high budget deficit we would be very tempted to put up business taxes. but because, precisely because i want to give-- given growth and private sector investment and job creation, that i'm actually going in the other direction and reducing business taxes. >> rose: but the president is making in the united states the exact opposite decision. >> every country has got to make his own decisions. and the american administration has got challenges just like the british government has got. challenges. but actually, if you look at, from what i can gather, the u.s. administration is concerned about infrastructure. we've c
give us the lowest corporation tax in the g-7. and that is a huge advert in this program, by the way, it is a good low corporate tax environment. >> rose: that's what ireland did exactly. >> and i think now they were able to take it quite a lot further than 24%. but nevertheless, from we're taking it from 28% to 24%. if you think of many people in my situation, many people sitting in a room like this, in faced with a very high budget deficit we would be very tempted to put up...
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to put pressure on us. but they're wrong and the time for that has passed. >> rose: okay, fair enough. who do you mean by the "zionist regime"? >> ( translated ): a regime that has occupied palestine and now forces its rule on that territory. >> rose: but why don't you just say aisrael? why don't you say the state of israel rather than the signist regime? >> ( translated ): we do not recognize that entity. we consider it to be a zionist and racist regime that occupies, creates wars, terrorizes and destroys the homes of people and prevents people from accessing water, medicine, and food in their own home, attacks its neighboring countries and threatens everyone around. >> rose: so you would therefore hope that there is an agreement reached between the negotiators from the state of israel and the palestinians so that they can agree on borders and agree on all the issues that separate them so that those questions of... can be settled in this negotiation? >> ( translated ): do you feel that a solution will real
to put pressure on us. but they're wrong and the time for that has passed. >> rose: okay, fair enough. who do you mean by the "zionist regime"? >> ( translated ): a regime that has occupied palestine and now forces its rule on that territory. >> rose: but why don't you just say aisrael? why don't you say the state of israel rather than the signist regime? >> ( translated ): we do not recognize that entity. we consider it to be a zionist and racist regime that...
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and i used to borrow a phrase from john f. kennedy, and tell people at the time to fix the roof is when the sun is shining. and we weren't doing that in the middle part of this decade. unfortunately, we not only had the budget deficit at the end of this period we've been through the recession in the 1990s. but we went into the crisis with the highest budget deficit in the world. >> rose: tell me what big society means. is this an important idea that we haven't seen before or is it simply one more person. >> there is such. >> rose: this is how we see the balance. >> i guess what it would-- the way i think about it is that there is such a thing in society t is just not the same thing as the state. and that i think where this from previous conservative thinking in this country at least s that we were very focused on the individual. and there's much more emphasis in what we are trys to do on the community, on the family, on society. and-- . >> rose: on nongovernment institutions. >> nongovernment institutions, understanding that t
and i used to borrow a phrase from john f. kennedy, and tell people at the time to fix the roof is when the sun is shining. and we weren't doing that in the middle part of this decade. unfortunately, we not only had the budget deficit at the end of this period we've been through the recession in the 1990s. but we went into the crisis with the highest budget deficit in the world. >> rose: tell me what big society means. is this an important idea that we haven't seen before or is it simply...
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because many conflicts are around us. so therefore our attempt, our word and our insistence to contribute to the solution of the problems is appreciated. >> couric: and the prime minister of the palestinian authority, salam fayyad. >> it's one that's based definitely on dealing violence out of the equation for sure. that's our interest. that's how we defined it. from our point of view. it happens to be consistent with obligations that we took on the road map and going back to 1993. it's in our best interest, we're not doing no one else a favor but ourselves when we subscribe to nonviolence. as a really key component to what we have to do to get to freedom. >> couric: a program note: our interview with the c.e.o. of google, eric schmidt, will be seen at a later date. tonight, the president of turkey and the prime minister of the palestinian authority when we continue. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: abdullah gul is here, he's the president of tur
because many conflicts are around us. so therefore our attempt, our word and our insistence to contribute to the solution of the problems is appreciated. >> couric: and the prime minister of the palestinian authority, salam fayyad. >> it's one that's based definitely on dealing violence out of the equation for sure. that's our interest. that's how we defined it. from our point of view. it happens to be consistent with obligations that we took on the road map and going back to 1993....
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resolutions and used chemical weapons in the iran war, used them against his own people, thousands died as a result of it. so that was why it was on the agenda from then on and my attitude to it, this is what led to the actions we took with respect to libya, a.q. khan, what we were trying to do then and trying to do still in relation to iran, north korea, and so on. from then on my view was the calculus of risk changes, you can not afford to let this proliferation occur. >> rose: here is what intrigues me about you, too. you seem to say about iran the fear to do nothing if you are a leader gnawed at you. gnawed at you. and therefore the iraqi invasion and therefore the potential of iran having nuclear weapons. the fear of that. >> yeah. i mean... >> rose: you lived more by fear than hope. >> (laughs) no, no, i think i'm basically hopeful. but... and i think the fear of doing the prime minister's questions is a little different. >> rose: i was fearful that i'd become prime minister and now i had to govern. that's how you openly spoke. >> that's for sure and true. i think the fear... howe
resolutions and used chemical weapons in the iran war, used them against his own people, thousands died as a result of it. so that was why it was on the agenda from then on and my attitude to it, this is what led to the actions we took with respect to libya, a.q. khan, what we were trying to do then and trying to do still in relation to iran, north korea, and so on. from then on my view was the calculus of risk changes, you can not afford to let this proliferation occur. >> rose: here is...
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it will help us take pressure off our currency, help us stabilize interest rates it will help us show the markets that our tax rates aren't going to rise to unbelievable levels because we are getting our fiscal house in order. so if we locked in a plan to actually get our debt under control, that will actually help our economy right now because it will improve competence in the future of our economy. >> okay but are you prepared to spend money for stimulus in order to do something about unemployment. >> so i don't subscribe to the typical keynesian doctrine that you need to borrow and spend money to create jobsment we borrowed and spend 1.1 trillion when you add interest costs on the stimulus and we lost 2.6 million jobs since that legislation passed. i do think there are better things that the government could do to promote prosperity and create jobs. we ought to be growing at a very fast pace coming out of the kind-of-recession we are coming out of if we are coming out of it. i mean 81, the 72 recession. we were growing at about 68% at this time. i would argue that the reason we are
it will help us take pressure off our currency, help us stabilize interest rates it will help us show the markets that our tax rates aren't going to rise to unbelievable levels because we are getting our fiscal house in order. so if we locked in a plan to actually get our debt under control, that will actually help our economy right now because it will improve competence in the future of our economy. >> okay but are you prepared to spend money for stimulus in order to do something about...